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General Category => Tamil Bible => Topic started by: FRANKLIN 13 on November 11, 2018, 11:34:43 AM
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Can anyone one guys explain why the women during the church or prayer covering their head with some clothes, but the bible says they shouldn't cover their heads clearly...... I wonder why no one see that verse.
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I don't think people have not read those verses.
2 points come to my mind.
one....women do all sort of things , to stay beautiful . May be , Covering their head is an effort to conceal their poor hair .May be they think covering head gives them an another dimension in beautifulness. They can't do that in public as this is considered as inauspicious.
They never mind bible teachings , if it come across their life style . eg. they put aside the following verse when they want to wear Jeans.
உபாகமம் 22 : 5 புருஷரின் உடைகளை ஸ்திரீகள் தரிக்கலாகாது, ஸ்திரீகளின் உடைகளைப் புருஷர் தரிக்கலாகாது, அப்படிச் செய்கிறவர்கள் எல்லாரும் உன் தேவனாகிய கர்த்தருக்கு அருவருப்பானவர்கள்.
two....it may be derived from the old Palestinian culture .
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@ bible says they shouldn't cover their heads clearly...... I wonder why no one see that verse.
Can you cite the verses?
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எந்த வசனம்?? கொஞ்சம் குறிப்பிட்டு சொல்ல முடியுமா?
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ஆகையால் தூதர்களினிமித்தம் ஸ்திரீயானவள் தலையின்மேல் முக்காடிட்டுக்கொள்ளவேண்டும்.(1 கொரிந்தியர் 11:10 )
என்றுதானேஇருக்கிறது.....?
தலையை முக்காடிட்டு கொள்ளக்கூடாது என்று வேதத்தில் எங்கே இருக்கிறது ...என்று பிரதர் ஸ்டீபன் செல்வம் கேட்க விரும்புகிறார்... என்று நினைக்கிறேன்...
கீழ்கண்ட வசனங்கள் முக்காடிட்டு கொள்ளக்கூடாது என்பதை கூறுவதாக பலரும் நினைக்கின்றார்கள்
ஸ்திரீ தன் மயிரை நீளமாய் வளர்க்கிறது அவளுக்கு மகிமையாயிருக்கிறதென்றும் சுபாவமே உங்களுக்குப் போதிக்கிறதில்லையா? தலைமயிர் அவளுக்கு முக்காடகக் கொடுக்கப்பட்டிருக்கிறதே.(1 கொரிந்தியர் 11:15)
ஆகிலும் ஒருவன் வாக்குவாதஞ்செய்ய மனதாயிருந்தால், எங்களுக்கும், தேவனுடைய சபைகளுக்கும், அப்படிப்பட்ட வழக்கமில்லையென்று அறியக்கடவன்.
1 கொரிந்தியர் 11:16
ஆனால்.......
முக்காடிட்டு கொள்ளக்கூடாது என்று நேரடியாக கூறும் வசனம் எங்கே இருக்கிறது என்று தெரியவில்லை
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அதே அதிகாரத்தில் முக்காடிட்டுகொல்ல வேண்டும் என்று நேரடியாக சொல்லும் வசனம் உள்ளது..
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முக்காடிட்டு கொள்ள வேண்டும் என்ற வசனம் இருக்கிறது. அதைத்தான் பதிவின் ஆரம்பத்திலேயே குறிப்பிட்டிருந்தேன். அதாவது 1 கொரிந்தியர் 11: 10
முக்காடிட்டு* கொல்ல. * வேண்டும் என்று அதே அதிகாரத்தில் எங்கே இருக்கிறது?
OK OK...jokes apart...
முக்காடிட்டு கொள்ளக்கூடாது என்று நேரடியாக கூறும் வசனம் எங்கே இருக்கிறது என்று தெரியவில்லை....... என்றுதான் இறுதியில் பதிவிட்டிருந்தேன்
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OK ok I just laughed by seeing the above reply
But soon after that I realised that one verse
"THOSE WHO HAS EYES WILL SEE"
I am sorry guys If the women are still covering the heads
This was a act of Satan
The reason why I just laughed is because "I am sorry" just skip this if you don't like..... 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
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Please don't skip.... Let us have some lighter moments....
WHY DID YOU LAUGH ?
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To make you some aggressive and make you to fight with me or argue by finding a better result on reading that verse again that doesn't mean that I laughed at you
Because covering the their heads with clothes is look like satanic rituals and awfull
OK and if you don't agree with me with this OK that not gonna be a problem and don't think that reply was an offence, if you think like that no problem on your offence, it is always welcomed
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// To make you some aggressive and make you to fight with me or argue by finding a better result on reading that verse again that doesn't mean that I laughed at you //
I didn't take it that way. I have no problem, even if you have laughed at me for what so ever reason.!!!
// Because covering the their heads with clothes is look like satanic rituals and awfull //
Then.....How about drinking blood ritual ?
// OK and if you don't agree with me with this OK that not gonna be a problem //
Well and good.
// don't think that reply was an offence,//
I won't think.
// if you think like that no problem on your offence, it is always welcomed //
Thank you.
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Franklin
# I am sorry guys If the women are still covering the heads
This was a act of Satan#
# Because covering the their heads with clothes is look like satanic rituals and awfull#
ஏன் அப்படி சொல்லுகிறீர்கள்? எது உங்களை அப்படி நினைக்கவைத்தது? ஏதேனும் காரணம் உண்டா??
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Yes Women should Cover Her Heads..
The Bible says To cover in the book
I Corinthians Chapter 11 verse 6 Paul The apostle says should cover her heads or else her hair to be shaven!
Please check it and cover your heads while go to church
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I am sorry #12, I afraid you read only the verse 7:6,10 and not 7:15 it says their hair is the cover for their heads. And to#11, OK I said covering their heads during the prayer looks satanic and awfull.
OK why did I said that. You must see that the bible didn't says the women should cover their heads with a cloth in anywhere( I challenge you)
Then I wonder why the women are covering their heads (they say it is the must thing to do when prayer and also they relate with their purity or something). Why are they saying like that which is not mentioned in the bible
Then what would you say on that, will you say it is a godly act or the Satanic act
DEFINITELY THE ACT OF SATAN....
The practice of covering their heads came into the practice in the late 4th century by the Lutherans and not in the 1st century. the Satan cleverly came into the church by this practice (you may saw satanic rituals the one who pray to Satan is covered their heads)
I want to know who is not agree with this....
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@:I want to know who is not agree with this.
Please know , I am the one who not agree with that !
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That's what I expect
Awesome to hear!!!!
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Bible says not only in Corinthians..
Mukaaditu kolvathai patri aangaenga matum ilamal matra pusthagathilum sola pattu iruku...sthri mukaditu kolamal irunthal thalai mudiyanathu katharithu poda padum endru Vedha puthagam thitavatamaga koorugirathu...
Kuripaga 1 korinthiyar Kristhu pirapatharku munpaga 55 il(B.C 55)eluthapata pusthagam... 11 athikaram muzhuvathum aarathanai thodarbana kattalaigal !
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Not only in Corinthians.In So many books said about the head coverings.
In The Book Leviticus 10th chapter of verse 6.Moses said to Aaron , Eleazar...
Don't uncover your heads as it leads to death.
So Bible said too about the head coverings.
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Yes the bible said about the covering of the women head while praying but it doesn't say that the head should be covered by a "cloth"
Rather the cover for their head is their "hair" ..
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In Leviticus 10th chapter of verse 6.
Moses said unto Aaron ...
"If they uncover their head, it'll lead to death"
The Custom of covering heads followed from the Old Testament.
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I think you didn't got what I am saying, the reference which you saying is doesn't say the women to cover the heads rather it says every one enters the church should cover it. But in the new testament it says the cover is their hair but not a simple cloth...
THE BIBLE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THE COVER IS THEIR HAIR AND NOT A CLOTH....
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Skipping the unwanted debates
My view on this...
In India, women covering their heads is an act of submission
Most of North Indian women has this culture
Reminder: we are living in a multi cultural country
Pointing fingers on the outwardly appearance of the other people is easy for Indians
Well God doesn't care about how you look outside he looks into our heart and soul
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தலைமயிர் , தலையை மூடி கொள்வதற்கு கொடுக்கப்பட்டிருப்பதாக எடுத்துக்கொண்டால் , கீழ்கண்ட வசனத்தின் அடிப்படையில் ஆண்கள் மொட்டை அடித்து கொள்ள வேண்டுமா?
ஜெபம்பண்ணுகிறபோதாவது, தீர்க்கதரிசனஞ் சொல்லுகிறபோதாவது, தன் தலையை மூடிக்கொண்டிருக்கிற எந்தப் புருஷனும் தன் தலையைக் கனவீனப்படுத்துகிறான்.
1 கொரிந்தியர் 11:4
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Reply#22
My view on this...
In India, women covering their heads is an act of submission
Most of North Indian women has this culture //
Not only it is Indian culture...but Palestinian's too.
ஆதியாகமம் 24:64,65
64 ரெபெக்காளும் தன் கண்களை ஏறெடுத்து ஈசாக்கைக் கண்டபோது,
65 ஊழியக்காரனை நோக்கி: அங்கே வெளியே நமக்கு எதிராக நடந்துவருகிற அந்த மனிதன் யார் என்று கேட்டாள். அவர்தான் என் எஜமான் என்று ஊழியக்காரன் சொன்னான். அப்பொழுது அவள் ஒட்டகத்தை விட்டிறங்கி முக்காடிட்டுக்கொண்டாள்.
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#23 kindly read 11:14
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Well God doesn't care about how you look outside he looks into our heart and soul
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This depends on one’s view of how Scripture should be interpreted in relation to contemporary culture. To understand how this teaching on head coverings applies to us today, consider the following:
1. What issues were being addressed? The underlying issue in this passage is male headship as related to God’s and Christ’s headship (v. 3). Women in first-century Eastern Mediterranean culture covered their hair when they got married. Hair was the chief element of female beauty, so only a husband was to view his wife’s hair. Uncovered hair was thus associated with seduction. Wealthy women, however, paid a lot for stylish hair fashions and often left their hair uncovered, which probably increased the tension between wealthy and poor women.
2. What principles offered here transcend their cultural context? Paul opposed behavior that could appear seductive, and he warned against bringing dishonor on one’s family. Paul also opposed ostentation and class division in the church. Those concerns remain crucial today. Historically, Paul’s reference to the order of creation (vv. 7 – 9) has been seen as indicating a directive that women of all times should wear a head covering, though in modern times most see in these verses a temporary cultural significance to the covering/uncovering of the head.
3. How can these principles be applied today? Paul’s message then was: show respect for and submission to your husband by covering your head during public worship. The principles Paul used to support head coverings in Corinth might support hats and veils today. However, some of the same principles might also be used to suggest that women not wear head coverings, especially if head coverings become objects of attention or attraction. It is possible that on some issues more than one practice is acceptable, depending on the culture being considered. Christians differ in understanding the implications of male headship today.
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Reply #4 by udaya is absolutely right
From 1st Corinthians verses what he quoted is very true.
Women may cover their head or may not.
Both is right. There is no problems with those who are not covering their heads.
May god bless
Amen
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Dear bro i believe ur thinking more holic to justify this matter. u will be justified by him