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General Category => Tamil Bible => Topic started by: love_all on September 10, 2014, 12:06:24 PM
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உலகின் முதல் பாவம், ஜீவ கனியை உண்டது. அதன் பின் உடனே ஆதாமும் ஏவாளும் இலை தழைகளைக் கொண்டு உடல் மறைத்தனர். காரணம் பாவம் செய்ததால் தாங்கள் நிர்வாணமாய் இருப்பதை உணர்ந்தனர். ஆனால் இன்றும் பல ஆதிவாசிகள் தென் அமெரிக்கா மற்றும் ஆப்பிரிக்காவில் நிர்வாணமாக தான் வாழ்ந்து வருகிறார்கள். அவர்கள் பாவம் செய்யாதவர்களா? இல்லை நிர்வாணத்தை உணர்ந்தது நாகரிக மாற்றத்தாலா?
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அந்த ஆதிவாசிகள் கர்த்தரின் ஜீவக்கனியை இதுவரை உண்ணாதிருக்கலா்ெண்ணுகிறேன்; அது எவ்விடத்தில் என்ன விலையில் கிடைக்குமென்பது பற்றியொரு தகவலும் கிடைக்கவில்லை! தங்கள் வசிப்பிடமருகில் அக்கனி கிடைத்தால் விலை நிலவரத்துடன் தகவலனுப்ப வேண்டுகிறேன்!
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Aathi vachikal thaggal nirvanamaaga iruppathu theriyaamal illai ..saththan adduvikkiraan avargalai ..avargal eppothu jesuvai arigurarkalo appo avargal pavam aliyum
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ஆடை அணிந்தவர்களை சாத்தான் ஆட்டுவிப்பது இல்லையா? நாகரீக மாற்றம் தானே ஆடை அணிய அடிப்படைக் காரணமாக இருக்கும்.
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இலைகளை ஆதாம் ஏவாள் உடுத்தியதால் தன் சுயஅறிவை முதலில் காட்டினான். கனியில் பாவத்தை வைக்கவில்லை தேவன். தேவன் வேண்டாம் என்று சொல்லிய அந்தவார்த்தையை மீறியதால் பாவம் வந்தது.இன்றைக்கும் இதே நடைமுறைதான்
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கனியில் பாவம் இல்லை. பாவம் ஏற்பட காரணமான அந்தக் கனி எதற்காக உருவாக்கப்பட வேண்டும்? அனைத்தும் அறிந்த கடவுளுக்கு இந்த பாவத்தால் தான் ஆதாமின் நாசியில் கொடுத்த உயிர் பரிக்கப்படும் என்று தெரியாமலா இருந்திருக்கும். சாத்தானைப் பற்றியும் மனிதனின் எதிர்காலம் பற்றியும் அறிந்த கடவுள் ஏன் அப்படி செய்ய வேண்டும்?
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தேவனாகிய கர்த்தர் மனிதனை படைப்பதற்கு முன்னர் , அவன் பாவம் செய்யப்போவதை அறிந்திருந்தாரா இல்லையா ? அறிந்திருந்தாரென்றால் பாவம் இவ்வுலகில் உருவாவது அவரது சித்தம் என்றாகிறது. இல்லை. என்றால் அவருக்கு எதிர்காலத்தில் நடக்கப்போவது தெரியாதென்றாகிறது. மனிதனை படைத்ததிற்காக அவர் விசனப்பட்டாரென்று வேதம்கூறுகிறது. மனிதன் பாவம் செய்வானென்று முன்கூட்டியே தெரிந்திருந்தால் விசனப்படவேண்டியதில்லையே ! இதை யாராவதுதெளிவுபடுத்தினால் நல்லது.
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Bro. Kadavul manitha sinthanaigalukku appar pattavar.
Avarudaya sinthanaigal manitha sinthanaigal ellai.
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Manithanin sinthanayai vida kadavul sindhanai menmaiyanadhu endral paavathinal indha makkal alindhu povargal endru theriyadha? Namakku puindhadhu kuda kadavuluku puriyamala ponadhu?
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Entum ulagam muluvathum pala punithargalin udalgal aliyamal erukkintathu.
avargal ellarum entha ulagathil valnthavargalthan.
nan eappadi vaala vendum eantu nanthan thirmanikka vendum.
kadavul manithanai oru bommai aaga padaikkavillai. Thanathu uruvilum sayalilum padaithar.
nallthu, thiyathu parthu vaala vendiyathu manithan.
theeyel kaiyay vittu chutta udan. Kadavulai kurai solvathu sariya.
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Nanba.. Petha appa kuda thannoda pillaigal oruthara oruthar adichukita, konnukita pathutu summa iruka maataru. Manushana uruvakina kadavul namma saguradha pathute dhana irukar. Yen ivlo madham (religion) varanum. Adha karanama vachu ellarum saganum. Thani manushan kuda pesura kadavul ellar kudayum pesuna yendha uyirum pogadhe. Nan anbu orukalum aliyadhu nu solra varthaya namburen. Ellaridamum anbu katanum nu aasa paduren. Manushana enaku thonum vishayam kadavulukum thona vendama?
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Bro. Ennoda kadavulai pattiya arivu evvalavuthan. Ennum unga kelvikku pathil kidaikkalenna, BIBLE a porumaya full a padinga. Oru murai ella palamurai padinga. Kandippa pathil kidaikkum.
ungaludaya questin verum vaathathirkkaga mattum nenga kettathaga eruntha,
sorry, Ungalukku eappavum pathil kidaikkathu. god Bless u.
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Brother naan verum vadhathirkaga pesala. History and scientific ah research panni bible pathiyum therinju dhan kekuren. Konjam broad a yosinga. Ungaluke puriyum.
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@reply#7:கடவுள் மனித சிந்தனைக்கு அப்பாற்பட்டவராகவே இருக்கட்டும். ஆனால். அவருடைய. சிந்தனை சிறப்பாக இல்லையே நண்பா !
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Hai i am a new member i just read the cnversation re sin ... 1. GOD is the creator who created us and everything. The fruit was not fruit of sin it was the one who can identify difference between good and bad. Adam and eve did not obey god thatis where the sin comes in. Why did god gave awarning to adam he knew that there is satan in that world who can persuade them and he trusted them that they will obey him. But they didnt .. thats what happens now a days he trust us all as his sons and daughters but are we obeying..
2.his thoughrs are always special.. he is not killing ..we are making wrong decisions and falling in to sin.. you know we are not even worthy to touch the sand on his slippers..HE Is the ALMIGHTY..SO BE CAREFULL...3 athivasigal they still cover thwmselves with leaves like adam and eve....before you talk about any yhing prey abd ask god to give knowledge to understand his thoughts they are always amazingly special
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Hai i am a new member i just read the cnversation re sin ... 1. GOD is the creator who created us and everything. The fruit was not fruit of sin it was the one who can identify difference between good and bad. Adam and eve did not obey god thatis where the sin comes in. Why did god gave awarning to adam he knew that there is satan in that world who can persuade them and he trusted them that they will obey him. But they didnt .. thats what happens now a days he trust us all as his sons and daughters but are we obeying..
2.his thoughrs are always special.. he is not killing ..we are making wrong decisions and falling in to sin.. you know we are not even worthy to touch the sand on his slippers..HE Is the ALMIGHTY..SO BE CAREFULL...3 athivasigal they still cover thwmselves with leaves like adam and eve....before you talk about any yhing prey abd ask god to give knowledge to understand his thoughts they are always amazingly special
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@reply14: You said GOD created everything.I think you are right . GOD. created sinnable man.GOD created evil serpent and he allowed the serpent to corrupt man and woman . He wanted Adam to eat the fruit of knowledge ,which gave man the knowledge of good and EVIL. But, GOD is HOLY and cannot ask man to eat a fruit that give him EVILTHINGS. So, HE took the long route to accomplish his plan.HE even did not protect the trees by placing that cherubim and flamming sword ,though HE did it later . All thing happened exactly to GOD's plan.We humans cannot go against GOD and spoil his bigger plan. What I suggest is, blaming man for sin is not right.
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The above reply #16 was responded to reply#15 not #14. Sorry for the mistake .
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When god created he created everything for he created everything for man and because he choses us his son and daughters he gave freedom to do everything just be mindfull about obeying his words.. likewise god said to adam he is the boss for everything ..but he let sepent invade in to his thoughts and disobeg God.. a simple question your father says you can use internet for study and you can do anything you want but be good and do watch anythung bad..
now you gat the chance to decide wgat you want you are doing your study work some bad things pop up what do you do ... do you explore and disobey father orobey him think about it and reply....
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The way you put the question implies few things .
1. My father knows good and bad things available online .
2. He is neither clever nor responsible . He knowingly allows his children to be exposed to bad things too .
3. He hasn't switch on the child lock in my computer for some reason .
4. He could have give me only good things , if he really want to.
Now, my honest answer : I would go by my father's intention and thoughts.
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Dear. While reading bible. This state that many things hidden inside. Only the holy sprit can explain this to us. Before the sin their was no SPAMMER. But they have the SPAMMER organs in the middle of our body. After they know about the organs difference they put leaf cloth and send outside edan garden and they gave birth. The SPAMMER is the sin. 02. God and lusifer had a conversation and after that conversation God created world and human. So that conversation we can know after death only. So from the bible we can learn what god expecting from us and what we need to do for god. This this world 2 things their BAD and GOOD. Evil and GOD.
03. Bible tell us to worship the GOD of HOLY. And love others as you love yourself.
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@The SPAMMER is the sin.
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@02. God and lusifer had a conversation and after that conversation God created world and human.
From where did you get this idea ? How do YOU know that there was such conversation ? Does Bible says so ?
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@So that conversation we can know after death only.
What is the usefulness of an information /conversation , if are able to know only after death?
By the way, how do you know this before death ? (I believe you are a living person !)
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@So from the bible we can learn what god expecting from us and what we need to do for god.
If GOD expect us to kill somebody , should we have to do that ? ( actually, according to Bible , GOD ask us to kill various people )
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@This this world 2 things their BAD and GOOD. Evil and GOD.03. Bible tell us to worship the GOD of HOLY.
GOD created evil.(Isaiah 45:7) Why did God created evil and ask us not to follow it ?
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@And love others as you love yourself.
Lovely words... :)
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Aathi mutual atham chaitha pavam enna. Eval than pavathai cheithal enna ental aval sarppam ponta manithanudan aval udaluravoo kondathu than pavam. Eppadiyenil antha manithanukkul saithan pugunthu evalai keduthu Athan moolam kaeinai perukiral. Avan aathi muthal kolai sei Kiran. Kartharal peranthavan kolai cheiyaan . Sarppam sabikka patta pin than pamppaga oornthu nadakkiran.
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Praise the Lord people... Very simple... We should understand the topic first... As we said obedience is the main core in this... God already gave us a free will choice,either Good or bad we need to choose.... after that he also know what the outcomes to our life because He is our creator.... THE MAIN POINT IS... GOD WANT US TO REALIZE HOW VALUE IS THE OBEDIENCE... That is the whole Bible God words told us... Obey... Realize
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கீழ்படியாமை. மனிதா நீ படைத்த ஒன்றை, அதன் மீது உள்ள உரிமையை உன்னை மிஞ்சி வேறு ஒருவனுக்கு கொடுப்பாயோ. நாம் படைத்த பொருளின் மீது நமக்கு இருக்கும் அதிகாரம் உரிமை எப்படியோ அப்படியே நம்மை படைத்த கர்த்தருக்கும் உண்டு.
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@Chandra Gideon:
GOD gave us "BAD" as a choice !!!!!!!.....and ask us not to choose !?!?!!?. Then it is not a choice at all.
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Praise the Lord,
God created every human begin .... No more alience ....But what ever we take as a decision according to that we r reacting in that way who lived in the mountain who's not wearing clothes ....they think that they comes from the ANIMALS .....
So they r not wearing clothes....
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@: No more alience
You mean aliens ? If so.......
Bible speak about aliens.
அந்நாட்களில் * இராட்சதர் * பூமியிலே இருந்தார்கள். பின்பு தேவகுமாரர் மனுஷகுமாரத்திகளோடே கூடுகிறதினால், இவர்கள் அவர்களுக்குப் பிள்ளைகளைப் பெற்றபோது, இவர்களும் பூர்வத்தில் பேர்பெற்ற மனுஷராகிய பலவான்களானார்கள்.
ஆதியாகமம் 6 :4
இராட்சதர் = aliens ?
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Brother there is no more aliens in this universe .....
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@: Brother there is no more aliens in this universe .....
No more aliens ? Realy. ? .....ok.
Then .....
What happened to them?....... or......Where have they gone ?
From where they came ? Who created them ?
Sorry.... am I asking you too many questions ?
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Dont worry u r always asking question.... We can understand easily they also human being. so its their physical problem in their body. Its not important that every one should born like them in their family ... some may be lean some may be fat some may be short etc... So slowly slowly their physical appearance may changed.
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@: Dont worry u r always asking question
I can answer questions , you know ?
@: So slowly slowly their physical appearance may changed.
This is known as EVOLUTION !
You accept " man slowly changed into giants "......
but , you won't accept " monkey slowly changed into man " .......am I right ?
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OK if u want to change u try but can't ....
I said about human being physical changes I did not talk they changed slowly monkey or donkey etc... Its only inside the human circle that's all
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Darwin's Theory of Evolution is a slow gradual process.
You knowingly or unknowingly believe that . Your reply indicates that. This is known as natural human intelligence . Of course , Bible warn about this , and I am not going to discusse that here.
FYI ,
I am not yet a fan of Darwin's Theory of Evolution
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Hi this is George a new registered guy I just went through all the conversations , is it possible a Human being can be perfect at all stages which I refer is when he comes to know wat is bad and good no its not possible we do fail but his mercy is keeping us alive , today when I was travelling in my staff bus towards home a big accident that guy had no hurt anywhere else in his head he died on the spot ,did he think that would happen to him no not all but the government insists us to wear helmet but do we do that ,no.... Because we feel lazy guys I tell u when a simple thing is being told and we do not follow then think about god he has given us many do we follow, one thing is today we are alive that is more than enough praise god for that yes we are alive and when we say that we are alive we should get goosebumps because its a sensitive thing that we are alive which shows how deeply we love our heavenly god praise god for that think of each day its purely mercy we are alive so sin is a part of life but his mercy surrounds and protects us which doest mean that we should go on sinning and we got mercy he often makes us realise that we are sinning so we need to take steps from avoiding it as mr.udhay said no need to talk about theory it is practical that god knows everything wat he is doing so we don't need to complicate it
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@: georgeryan
Hi , welcome to the discussion.
Humans can't be perfect at any stage , age , aspect , etc... But near perfection can be achieved when people understand the joy of perfection. Of course , perfection means some scarification.
Regarding Helmet story.......
Government is not concerned or bothered about the aspects that cause accidents , but worry about what happened after the accident.They do not implement measures to prevent accident , but they strictly implement rules of post accident benefits !!!!
This is exactly what is happening in Christian religion. God is not preventing " SIN ", but He gave his only begotten son to save sinner , AFTER THEY SINNED. I wonder what is preventing GOD , to destroy evil forces and gift us a sinfree life ? Instead of giving his son to be get killed , he can kill the evil .
May be GOD won't kill evil , as he himself created evil for some purpose that we don't know yet . After all , Who are we to question GOD ?
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உதயா அவர்களே உங்கள் சிந்தனை சிறப்பானதென்றால் (கடவுளை விட), ஒருநல்ல நேர்த்தியான உலகத்தை படைத்துக் கொடுங்கள் நாங்களும் அங்கே வாழ வசதியாய் இருக்கும்
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சகோ.....என்னுடைய சிந்தனைகள் சிறப்பானது என்று கூற இயலாது.
சிறப்பான சிந்தனைகள் மற்றும் அதனை வெளிப்படுத்தும் செயல்பாடுகளை கடவுளிடம் எதிர்பாருங்கள் . நான் சாதாரண மனிதன்.
மேலும் , நேர்த்தியான உலகத்தை அளிக்கப்போவதாக கூறும் கடவுளின் வாக்குத்தத்தை தங்களுக்கு நினைவூட்டுகிறேன்.
அதனடிப்படையில் அவ்வுலகத்தை சுதந்தரித்துக் கொள்ளுங்கள். என்னிடம் எதிர்பார்ப்பதாக தாங்கள் கூறுவது , நகைச்சுவை க்காகத்தானே ?
உலகங்களை படைப்பது கடவுளின் காரியம் .
விஞ்ஞான வளர்ச்சி , மனிதன் ....உலகத்தை படைக்கும் ஆற்றலை அவனுக்கு அளிக்கும் , என்று எண்ண எந்தவித முகாந்திரமும் இதுவரை தென்படவில்லை. ஒரு வேளை , என் அறியாமையினால் இவ்வாறு நான்கூறுவது தவறாக இருக்கலாம் !
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Kadavul manithani thaan sayalaka padaithar endru bible solginrathu annal manithan pavan saythan eppidi
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கடவுள் மனிதனை தன் சாயலாகத்தான் படைத்தார்...தன் சுபாவமாக அல்ல ...
Hope that will help.